Without further ado, here’s my final banzuke guess.
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Kyushu Banzuke Crystal Ball
Without further ado, here’s my final banzuke guess.
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My board looks very similar to yours. Identical from M2e to the top, and M12e down to M17e. I have 4 switched with you (Daieisho, Asahakuryu, Roga and Nishikifuji) and 3 other bullseyes (Kinbozan, Oshoma, and Asakoryu) in between. I gave all the 9-6’s a full 3 points to 4.5 up, the 6-9’s 3 to 4 down.
Feeling good about my picks. We’ll see next Monday.
From W3 to E7 (to use Doitsoyama’s notation) I have everything different from U. Above that I fully agree and below I have Asakoryu in front of Takanosho and Kyokukayiu switched with Arashifuji. But the main difference down there is that I kept Chiyoshoma.
W3 to E7 is where most of the scoring differences are likely to be this time
Yeah, W2 to W5 – same people jumbled order. Same story W9-E13.
M2-M12 could be called the yo-yo zone .. for those rikishi (e.g. Ura) who oscillate up and down that range across successive basho ..
My first try of a complete makuuchi banzuke (I wouldn’t call it a guess) was around a shift of both komusubi and both M1 in a block to M5/6. Because they‘re all 5-10. Of course you honourable experts know how it’s been done for years – but why not think about it? All three upper 9-6 candidates got 4,5-jumps. Overpromoting Ura to M3e and WMH to M4w. I was very mean to Gonoyama and put him on M7e. And saved Chiyoshoma. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu :)
We’re just trying to guess what the banzuke committee does 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe I try to imagine what they should think, instead. It’s fun, anyway. Thank you for your inspiring suggestions!
Do we know how the committee settles arguments and ultimately decides on where a rikishi belongs on the banzuke? Or is everything behind closed doors and no one says how anything works?
Pretty much the latter.
No Shodai???. Did he fall onto the barge?.
Sadly
Damn !
woohoo. tamawashi will be back!
I had Chiyoshoma staying up! Let’s see how that goes.. Periods of consistency, periods of dramatic deviation for me.
I see that both U and Asashosakari enter their guesses quite late. Why is that so? I think all the information one needs is there right after senshuraku as U showed in your „Kyushu banzuke talk“. Why wait? Are there long discussions at the sumo forum which influence your decisions? Or do U hope for gossip that says for example X is on W5 and then U adapt that?
Yeah, pretty much just procrastination in actually submitting my entry. Occasionally when I don’t see any possible major reason for wanting to rethink my initial draft I’ll submit it straight away – in part because those editions make me feel like I should try to get the earlier-entry tiebreaker over what I suspect will be other identical entries. But the high maegashira mess made this a “let it simmer for a few weeks” edition, and in that case I usually leave everything until the final weekend before the deadline.
Thank U very much for your interesting answers. But…
Usually I‘m being the king of procrastination and then come U two energetic, I say only SumoForum, banzuke experts and talk to me about delaying a (fun) job? Come on!
Anyway, your „procrastination“ mostly does pay off.
I miss Mitakeumi… but I miss his mom even more. She was my waifu.
Don’t know Japanese culture. To my ears U sound weird. Could it be Mitakeumi would throw U around if he met U? Or would he even take it as a compliment.
Well the banzuke for November is out folks. One day, maybe, I’ll get better at this !
Can’t wait for the basho to start now.
Yay, my little muscle monster made M9…Way to go !!!!! :)
Hmm, Shodai at J3…Wonder if the suns setting… :(
he got screwed, no way he should have been below Tobizaru, most guesses had him J1w
I still don’t get it. It was such a sudden drop
Could it be that this time it wasn’t an advantage to know the „rules“ of banzuke construction? What a strange outcome!
My thoughts exactly
After a long absence I make an appearance at a high rank – No. 11 :)
Likely I’ll be back in the 200s next time.
Congratulations! U‘re perhaps the „Tachiai-Winner“. (And I‘ve taken over your place in the 200s… probably to keep it).